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Re: [Phys-L] Warning: Political was: Re: Frank Oppenheimer



"So?"?!?

My comment on KC Cole's description of Hiroshima as "pristine" simply pointed 
out its equivocal meanings in the context of WWII.

This seems to have opened a bomb door, releasing various claims about several 
events and their relevant contribution to Japan's surrender.



From: bernard cleyet <bernard@cleyet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 5:08 PM
To: Rick Strickert <rstrickert@signaturescience.com>
Cc: phys-l@phys-l.org
Subject: Warning: Political was: Re: [Phys-L] Frank Oppenheimer

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On Mar 12, 2024, at 14:06, Rick Strickert 
<rstrickert@signaturescience.com<mailto:rstrickert@signaturescience.com>> wrote:

While Hiroshima may have been considered "pristine" in the sense of not yet 
having been fire-bombed as other major Japanese cities, like Tokyo, had been, 
it was not "pristine" in the sense of lacking military value.  Hiroshima was 
involved in military weapons production, with workers' homes near ammunition 
factories.  Hiroshima contained the 2nd Army Headquarters for southern Japan, 
and was also an assembly area for Japanese troops.


So?


bc ... read this decades ago, but didn't know it'd escaped firebombing.

Note:  defenders of the use of nuclear claim it shortened the war.  They would 
be angry if they learned it was the Soviet declaration that shortened the war.

https://blog.nationalarchives.gov.uk/soviet-japan-and-the-termination-of-the-second-world-war/

Note also,  many more casualties in Tokyo fire bombing than caused by nuclear.  
It didn't result in the Japanese collapse.

Others have proposed the use was more likely a warning to the Soviet.

 "....   was the single most destructive bombing raid in human history."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Tokyo

bc ...  additionally thinks the IDF wishes to beat this record.

Here's an anti-revisionist article:

https://www.bu.edu/historic/hs/kort.html